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Hi Bill, Woody Woodruff here (a DSA member of 45 years' standing, including when we both worked at Publishers' Auxiliary). I would argue, in terms of who came first, that socialism and socialist parties *(see Eugene Debs, Jean Jaures, the Ehrfurt Programme etc.) were hard at work way before the creation of the USSR and its progeny. It is still a matter of belief among my comrades that the name and concept of socialism was semantically hijacked both by the USSR and the National Socialists.

Social democracy as practiced in many nations (including, as you say, marginally in the US as represented by public provision of schooling, parks etc.) has gradations from border to border but depends for its continuity on people getting what they expect for their taxes and seeing the books open for inspection.

A great deal of misery and oppression took place under the rubric of socialism, no question. It's a bitter history. But the idea of workers' control of public provision (and the control of the means of production to the extent needed for that end) is still working its way forward, even in the age of AI trillionaires.

Woody

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